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Here are some of the questions we frequently get asked. If you have any other questions please contact the relevant member of the team.

Course Bookings

What time do your courses start and end?

The programme for all courses starts on the Saturday morning straight after breakfast and we aim to be finished by 4pm on Sunday. For arrival, the centre is open from 7pm on Friday night. Whilst there is no formal programme on the Friday night it’s a good opportunity to meet the staff, the other candidates and discuss your requirements for the weekend!

Is the training and assessment for a permit done on the same weekend?

No, our weekends are not combined training and assessment courses as a period of consolidation is required between training and assessment.

Can I book an entire course (or several places) for my leaders?

Sure, you’ll need to complete a booking form for each participant. If you intend to combine several payments please contact the Course Secretary to let them know.

Do your course fees include food or accommodation?

Yes, all our courses include breakfast, packed lunch and dinner on Saturday and breakfast and packed lunch on Sunday. Indoor accommodation is also included in bunk rooms. You’ll need to bring your own pillow and sleeping bag. Where possible we try to have single sex dorms but we cannot guarantee this.

Can I change or cancel my course booking?

You can cancel or change your course up to 56 days before for no charge. After this a change will be treated as a cancellation and the following charges will apply:

  • Up to 15 days before the event – 50% of the total course fee
  • 14 days or less before the event – 100% of the total course fee

Download our full Terms and Conditions

Hostel Bookings

Covid-19 Booking Information

We are not currently taking confirmed bookings but we are prepared to take provisional booking without a deposit. The reason is that we are governed by the guidance given to us by the Government, Scout Association, ScoutsCymru among others therefore we don’t know when the hostel will be opened again to residential groups of people.

We hope to open by April 2021 if not sooner, but as stated above that will guided by agencies outside of our control. When the hostel becomes open we will want a deposit to confirm your booking in accordance with the terms and conditions that were applicable prior to the lockdown. We are not liable for any change that may take place should the situation change back to a lockdown or other condition. However we will endeavour to return any deposit that has been paid which is in accordance with our policy following the lockdown in March of 2020.

In order to provisionally book the hostel YOU MUST send an email to hostel@yr-hafod.org.uk to request the booking, a reply will be sent back once the booking has been made on our booking calendar.

Do you have Risk Assessments for the Hostel?

Risk Assessments for the Hostel can be found here. You are expected to have your own Risk Assessments for the activities you are undertaking.

For Hafod Courses we have Risk Assessments for all activities we provide.

Can I hire Yr Hafod instructors?

All of the staff and instructors at Yr Hafod are volunteer Scout Leaders and therefore we can’t hire our instructors out for Scout or external groups booked into our hostel.

We recommend you check your local area for permit holders using the permit search feature of Compass
or search for a local instructor to hire through the Mountain Training Association, alternatively why not book on one of our Explorer Scout Weekends?

Can I cancel my hostel booking?

You can cancel up to 29 days before for a full refund. For 28 days of less your deposit will be retained unless a like for like booking is made by another group.

Download our full Terms and Conditions

Technical Questions

What’s the difference between Terrain 1 and 2?

In general terms Terrain 1 covers non-remote areas that can be considered hills and moors. Terrain 2 covers more remote areas and mountains.

Specifically Terrain 1 is defined by POR 9.29 and Terrain 2 by POR 9.30.

In effect, Terrain 1 covers areas such as the Peak District, Brecon Beacons, Dartmoor (perhaps not the very middle), Cheviots, North Yorkshire Moors, Yorkshire Dales and the lower mountains of Snowdonia and the Lake District. Terrain 2 covers the higher mountains of the Lakes and Snowdonia and any ground in Terrain 0 and 1 areas that can be considered “steep ground”. Exmoor is mostly Terrain 0 with a bit of Terrain 1.

Should I attend a Terrain 1 or 2 course?

Answer pending…

Pen-Y-Fan, Cheviot or similar mountains are a few metres over 800m. Do I need a Terrain 2 permit?

The short answer is yes. However, whilst these mountains clearly fall within the definition of Terrain 2 they do not present any additional difficulties above and beyond a Terrain 1 skill set. At Yr Hafod your assessor will be more than happy to issue you a Terrain 2 permit that will enable you to climb specific Terrain 1-style mountains that just sneak into Terrain 2 subject to a successful Terrain 2 assessment with adjustments for the difference between the two. We won’t issue this type of exception to mountains that are well into Terrain 2 and we won’t issue blanket permits for all mountains up to 810m, for example. Exceptions must be specific. Please contact the Course Bookings Secretary or speak to your assessor if you have any queries.

Do you assess lightweight expedition permits?

Unfortunately not.

Do you issue hillwalking supervisory permits?

No, we will only issue leadership permits after a successful assessment. Supervision permits rely on a different set of skills that we cannot assess over a weekend. They also depend much more on personal suitability. We recommend you speak to your County Hillwalking Assessor.

How do I know if I’m ready for assessment?

Answer pending…

Should I go for a Scout Hillwalking Permit or Mountain Leader?

Answer pending…

Should I go for a Scout Natural Rock Climbing Permit or Rock Climbing Instructor

Answer pending…

General Queries

Do you have a non-0845 number?

Unfortunately not, the 0845 numbers redirect to our personal mobile phones but we’ve tried to keep things cheap and Our 0845 numbers are charged at local rate.

What are your office hours?

Our phone lines are staffed by volunteers so there aren’t any. You may or may not get an answer at any time of the day!

Remember you can always leave a message, include your name and contact details and we will get back to you.

How can I make my Compass profile visible to Yr Hafod assessors?

You will neeed to make your profile visible to us if you want us to recommend a permit. Follow these steps to share the bare minimum information with us (and anyone else that knows your membership number).

  1. Login to Compass at compass.scouts.org.uk.
  2. Click My Scouting on the menu across the top then click Visibility on the new menu that appears. (Image 1).
  3. Click the Edit button on the right hand side then select the following options (see Image 2):
    • Make me visibile outside my hierarchy: Yes
    • Minimum Level of members searching outside your hierarchy: Everyone
    • Tick Permits and select Everyone.
    • Click Save.
  4. Image 3 shows you what information is now visible. This information can only be seen by Scouters if they have your membership number. People outside of your hierarchy cannot search for you using your name. You can reverse these changes after we’ve recommended a permit.

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Covid 19

Yr Hafod is now closed until the current Coronavirus (Covid-19) crisis is over. As the Covid 19 restrictions are lifted we are hopeful that we can return to business in 2021. To help you with your planning for 2021 we are taking provisional bookings for the hostel and our activity courses and there’s even better news, we won’t be asking for any deposit or payment until the Government and the Scout Association have lifted the restrictions on residential activities taking place. Please phone for your first and second provisional dates. You can continue to browse the website as normal. Click on videos or buy a Buff in the menu to prepare yourself for when we are allowed out again. Stay safe everyone and we look forward to seeing you at Hafod in 2021.